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	<title>Comments on: Urumqi Riot 5th July 2009</title>
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		<title>By: aaroninjapan09</title>
		<link>http://guorbatschow.com/blog/2009/07/urumqi-riot-5th-july-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-5917</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think anyone, not even the uyghr&#039;s tried to present this as a separatist movement unlike Tibet.  In this case, even the western media have been careful to simply call this an inflammation of ethnic tensions.  

The Uyghr&#039;s themselves were more trying to rally for &quot;fair treatment&quot; by what they viewed as a Han dominated government, even though Xinjiang is a self autonomous region.   

The riots are unlikely to continue, and it&#039;ll probalby just be a lesson in the history books where China learned how to properly manage rioting citizens as opposed to Iran who blew it completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone, not even the uyghr&#8217;s tried to present this as a separatist movement unlike Tibet.  In this case, even the western media have been careful to simply call this an inflammation of ethnic tensions.  </p>
<p>The Uyghr&#8217;s themselves were more trying to rally for &#8220;fair treatment&#8221; by what they viewed as a Han dominated government, even though Xinjiang is a self autonomous region.   </p>
<p>The riots are unlikely to continue, and it&#8217;ll probalby just be a lesson in the history books where China learned how to properly manage rioting citizens as opposed to Iran who blew it completely.</p>
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		<title>By: Zijian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zijian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve hated the &quot;free tibet&quot; movement for the longest time now because of the hypocrasy of it. read michael parenti&#039;s article on feudal tibet if you&#039;re not familiar with it. Regardless, the chinese government will probably take severe actions against this, leading to more deaths.
What do I think of it personally? truthfully, I don&#039;t realy care. Why? Because this will get settled the hard way. If people forgot their place, and actually has enough guts to riot over something like this, then the government must act like a responsible parent and take physical action. I say this will blow over soon, and everything will return to normal. But hopefully the lesson will last for quite while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve hated the &#8220;free tibet&#8221; movement for the longest time now because of the hypocrasy of it. read michael parenti&#8217;s article on feudal tibet if you&#8217;re not familiar with it. Regardless, the chinese government will probably take severe actions against this, leading to more deaths.<br />
What do I think of it personally? truthfully, I don&#8217;t realy care. Why? Because this will get settled the hard way. If people forgot their place, and actually has enough guts to riot over something like this, then the government must act like a responsible parent and take physical action. I say this will blow over soon, and everything will return to normal. But hopefully the lesson will last for quite while.</p>
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		<title>By: Woxxy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll stay on the safe side by saying that if you side for China in my place (Italy) you&#039;d get taken as agreeing with dictatorship, because everybody is taught only about the ideologist sides and never about their counterparts, as what would happen if regions like Tibet would gain their &quot;identity&quot;.

Truthfully, in our age, nationalistic feelings, patriotism, they are all remnaints of dark ages called mistakenly &quot;enlightened&quot; during which wars of unprecedented dimension were bound to happen just because of ideologisms that fired up populations in XVIII century. Add that up to irrationalism, which leads to racism as well, resulting in furious nationalism, and you get the First World War. The rest is pretty well known.

What history should teach us is never pointed out correctly: it&#039;s not just about what we shouldn&#039;t do, but it&#039;s mostly about what we shouldn&#039;t promote, and about which mindset we shouldn&#039;t take. Yet, the mass media itself gives us the &quot;right side&quot; we should part with, instead of pointing out how the ones looking for &quot;justice&quot; and/or &quot;freedom&quot; are acting in first place. Demonizing the authority might be the right expression, as it&#039;s not justified by the mass media itself, that points out who is the bad one subtly, yet, clearly.

Irrationalism alone is a beast, and it&#039;s what moves these people rioting. They have no idea why they are doing it, litterally. They are told to start a riot and since others are just listening blindy as well, they will go on the action too. Europe in 1900-1914 was eroded by irrationalism, people agreed with entering wars because of the simple feeling it was right to, and unfortunately &quot;we&quot; were far more organized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll stay on the safe side by saying that if you side for China in my place (Italy) you&#8217;d get taken as agreeing with dictatorship, because everybody is taught only about the ideologist sides and never about their counterparts, as what would happen if regions like Tibet would gain their &#8220;identity&#8221;.</p>
<p>Truthfully, in our age, nationalistic feelings, patriotism, they are all remnaints of dark ages called mistakenly &#8220;enlightened&#8221; during which wars of unprecedented dimension were bound to happen just because of ideologisms that fired up populations in XVIII century. Add that up to irrationalism, which leads to racism as well, resulting in furious nationalism, and you get the First World War. The rest is pretty well known.</p>
<p>What history should teach us is never pointed out correctly: it&#8217;s not just about what we shouldn&#8217;t do, but it&#8217;s mostly about what we shouldn&#8217;t promote, and about which mindset we shouldn&#8217;t take. Yet, the mass media itself gives us the &#8220;right side&#8221; we should part with, instead of pointing out how the ones looking for &#8220;justice&#8221; and/or &#8220;freedom&#8221; are acting in first place. Demonizing the authority might be the right expression, as it&#8217;s not justified by the mass media itself, that points out who is the bad one subtly, yet, clearly.</p>
<p>Irrationalism alone is a beast, and it&#8217;s what moves these people rioting. They have no idea why they are doing it, litterally. They are told to start a riot and since others are just listening blindy as well, they will go on the action too. Europe in 1900-1914 was eroded by irrationalism, people agreed with entering wars because of the simple feeling it was right to, and unfortunately &#8220;we&#8221; were far more organized.</p>
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